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Expected value questions in trading interviews, with worked answers

How to solve expected value questions asked by trading firms: dice games, rerolls, stopping problems and fair prices, with worked answers and common traps. 5 min readUpdated By the Prepper team

Expected value is the language of trading interviews. Almost every game, bet or market-making question reduces to: what is this worth on average, and what would you pay?

The definition

The expected value of a bet is the sum of each outcome multiplied by its probability. A fair price is the expected payout.

Worked questions

1. You roll a die and are paid the number shown. What is the game worth? (1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6) / 6 = 3.5.

2. You may reroll once. What is it worth now? Reroll when the first roll is below 3.5, so on 1, 2 or 3. Half the time you keep an average of 5; half the time you get 3.5. 0.5 × 5 + 0.5 × 3.5 = 4.25.

3. Two rerolls? With two rolls left the game is worth 4.25, so keep only a 5 or 6 on the first roll. (1/3) × 5.5 + (2/3) × 4.25 = 4.67.

4. You are paid the larger of two dice. P(max = k) = (2k − 1) / 36. The expected value is 161 / 36 = 4.47.

5. You flip a coin until the first tail and get 1 for each head. The number of heads has mean 1.

6. A bet pays 3 to 1. What probability makes it fair? 3p − (1 − p) = 0, so p = 1/4.

7. A stopping game. You roll a die and add up the rolls. You can stop any time, but a 1 wipes out your total. When do you stop? Rolling again at total s is worth (5/6)s + 20/6. That beats s only when s is below 20.

Techniques

  • Linearity. The expected value of a sum is the sum of expected values, even when the parts are dependent.
  • Work backwards. For games with choices, value the last decision first.
  • Condition on the first step. Split on the first roll or flip and write an equation.
  • Symmetry. Look for outcomes that must be equally likely.

What interviewers add

  • "What would you pay to play?" Slightly less than the expected value, and say why: variance and bankroll.
  • "Now make me a market." Quote a bid below and an offer above your fair value.
  • "I buy from you. Does your price change?" It should, if the trade tells you something.

Common traps

  • Averaging the wrong thing, such as average of a ratio.
  • Ignoring the option to stop or reroll.
  • Forgetting that paying to play changes the profit, not the payout.

Practise timed sets in trading prep and read trading brainteasers.

Frequently asked questions

What is expected value in simple terms?

The average result you would get if you could repeat a bet many times: each outcome multiplied by its probability, added together.

Would you pay the full expected value to play a game?

Usually a little less, to be compensated for risk. In interviews, explain the gap between fair value and what you would pay.

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